Bible Question:

I just found your page in which you made as if Enoch and Jude were not in agreement and I find that disingenuous of you, as the comparison shows they do say the same for Jude is quoting Enoch as much as all New Testament writers quote any passage using their own words - sometimes loosely. Enoch chapter 1: 9 reads, “And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgement upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Jude reads, “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Jesus quoted Enoch many times and Enoch is where the doctrine of the Son of Man is found. As to the canon, the Holy Spirit did not decide in the 4th century in the west that Enoch was to be banned as scripture. Men did. Augustine is not the foundation of the church and Augustine was the one responsible for Enoch's banning.

Bible Answer:

Jude 14 reads as follows

It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” (NASB) Jude 14-15

The New International Version (NIV) changes the phrase “with many thousands” to “with thousands upon thousands” and the English Standard Version (ESV) translates it as “with then thousands.” The Enoch passage that you refer to has been translated by James H. Charlesworth and is available in The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. It reads as follows,

Behold, he will arrive with millions of the holy ones in order to execute judgment upon all. He will destroy the wicked ones and censure all flesh on account of everything that they have done, that which the sinners and the wicked ones committed against him. The Book of Enoch, Section 1, chap. 1, para. 9.[1]

A quick comparison of Jude 14 with this translation or with your internet reference reveals that the passages are similar but not exact. It is difficult to claim that Jude is a quote of Enoch. Let us examine the two quotes closely. Here are some differences:

1) Note that Jude says “the Lord came” but Enoch reads, “he will arrive” or “He cometh.” Jude refers to the “Lord” performing a past event while Enoch does not refer to the Lord and refers to a future action.
2) Second, Jude says, “the Lord came with many thousands . . .” But Enoch reads, “he will arrive with millions . . .” It should be noted that the phrase “ten thousands” is mathematically equal to one million. This is a major difference between the two quotes.
3) Third, Jude says that the Lord will execute judgment and convict the ungodly, but Enoch says that “he” will destroy and censure.
4) Finally, Jude refers to the ungodly speaking “against Him” but Enoch says that they “committed against him.”

Your assumption appears to be that Jude quoted the book of Enoch and just changed some words since Enoch was written first. But this ignores the fact that a divine being, our God, is the author of Jude. It is clear that Jude was inspired, that is, written by God, and not Enoch. In Jude, God records the correct wording of the prophet Enoch’s ancient prophecy. Note that Jude says Enoch prophesied. Jude quotes him. Jude records the prophecy accurately. We cannot trust the book of Enoch which is not inspired. One’s perspective is all important.


Jude accurately recorded Enoch’s prophecy. The book of Enoch is an inaccurate quote since it apparently depended upon oral traditions that had been handed down over the centuries. It is understandable that the quote in Enoch would be inaccurate given the passage of time and the inaccuracies that can occur with the passage of time. But since God has promised to keep His Word accurate, it is more reasonable to conclude that Jude is accurate. The information in Enoch is inaccurate. Jude has the correct wording.


1. James H. Charlesworth in The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha. Doubleday Publishing. 1983. vol.1, p. 14.

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